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	<title>Comments on: Lets talk about the Environment</title>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.urbangrind.com.au/archives/136/comment-page-1#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgs! Love the new look AND saves power too - black screens look good, don't they?

Great post and comments by all - it is important to feel those emotions of frustration and anger and disappointment in our leaders/processes.  This is what drives us to innovate and ultimately empower ourselves and others to survive.  The 'Reduce' philosophy/way of life will become increasingly necessary in our society, but it means a massive culture change which won't happen overnight (despite how urgent the issue is...).

I applaud that young person who asked the hard question of us off-setting, because it opens up debate about the massive changes in 'world-view' that we need. Keep on going guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgs! Love the new look AND saves power too - black screens look good, don&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>Great post and comments by all - it is important to feel those emotions of frustration and anger and disappointment in our leaders/processes.  This is what drives us to innovate and ultimately empower ourselves and others to survive.  The &#8216;Reduce&#8217; philosophy/way of life will become increasingly necessary in our society, but it means a massive culture change which won&#8217;t happen overnight (despite how urgent the issue is&#8230;).</p>
<p>I applaud that young person who asked the hard question of us off-setting, because it opens up debate about the massive changes in &#8216;world-view&#8217; that we need. Keep on going guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.urbangrind.com.au/archives/136/comment-page-1#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DCF,

Large companies are setting examples. Take google for instance. &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/corporate/solarpanels/home" rel="nofollow"&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;. These things are still a choice. Massive profits mean massive opportunities to make such choices. I could be wrong?

Carla,

That sucks about research funding. I have often suggested that a more organised 'left' could be funding it's own research and development.

Andrew, my friend. Me thinks that you have more time to think with than me :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCF,</p>
<p>Large companies are setting examples. Take google for instance. <a href="http://www.google.com/corporate/solarpanels/home" rel="nofollow">Link</a>. These things are still a choice. Massive profits mean massive opportunities to make such choices. I could be wrong?</p>
<p>Carla,</p>
<p>That sucks about research funding. I have often suggested that a more organised &#8216;left&#8217; could be funding it&#8217;s own research and development.</p>
<p>Andrew, my friend. Me thinks that you have more time to think with than me <img src='http://www.urbangrind.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me thinks it's time for a monthly/weekly urbangrind podcast :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me thinks it&#8217;s time for a monthly/weekly urbangrind podcast <img src='http://www.urbangrind.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with your point - trading in an alternative to the prevailing discourse (i.e. prevention rather than offset) is SO frustrating! unfortunately the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff is an action which can be seen and therefore advertised, with a nice "feel good factor".  What good would it do not to need an ambulance at all?  How many votes can you get from that/where's the endorphin rush?

Not only is this mentality pervasive it will continue to be so while economic bottom lines are the prominent discourse in society - in both business but also, as in my case, in the research funding environment!  I find this particularly worrying as research programmes are being set to find better ways to place the ambulance, with respect to economic bottom lines, rather than looking at (and changing) the structures and processes which are at the root of the problem...  Sigh ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with your point - trading in an alternative to the prevailing discourse (i.e. prevention rather than offset) is SO frustrating! unfortunately the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff is an action which can be seen and therefore advertised, with a nice &#8220;feel good factor&#8221;.  What good would it do not to need an ambulance at all?  How many votes can you get from that/where&#8217;s the endorphin rush?</p>
<p>Not only is this mentality pervasive it will continue to be so while economic bottom lines are the prominent discourse in society - in both business but also, as in my case, in the research funding environment!  I find this particularly worrying as research programmes are being set to find better ways to place the ambulance, with respect to economic bottom lines, rather than looking at (and changing) the structures and processes which are at the root of the problem&#8230;  Sigh &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DCF</title>
		<link>http://www.urbangrind.com.au/archives/136/comment-page-1#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>DCF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm only just getting my head around this "carbon offset" principle. I think it's a great idea in all areas, if I think the process through:

Some firms, notably the really big ones, will find it difficult in many areas to achieve a reduction in emissions. If they can't do it in person, they can at least set aside some cash to purchase "carbon credits" which enable others to make the reductions for them by proxy.

It's not wholly satisfactory, for sure, but it's still better than a slap in the face with a wet fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m only just getting my head around this &#8220;carbon offset&#8221; principle. I think it&#8217;s a great idea in all areas, if I think the process through:</p>
<p>Some firms, notably the really big ones, will find it difficult in many areas to achieve a reduction in emissions. If they can&#8217;t do it in person, they can at least set aside some cash to purchase &#8220;carbon credits&#8221; which enable others to make the reductions for them by proxy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not wholly satisfactory, for sure, but it&#8217;s still better than a slap in the face with a wet fish.</p>
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